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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.savadati.com/2009/07/30/we-love-islam-so-we-wear-burqa/comment-page-1/#comment-3885</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that when muslims practise their religious beliefs people come out condemning the act,whereas one can find even &quot;nuns&quot; covering their heads and wear modest clothing similar to what virgin Mary does.is  it because islam is the &quot;most MISUNDERSTOOD&quot; religion in the world? People should read why exactly women have to wear the burqa......Also, women are tortured elsewhere also leave alone, afghanistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that when muslims practise their religious beliefs people come out condemning the act,whereas one can find even &#8220;nuns&#8221; covering their heads and wear modest clothing similar to what virgin Mary does.is  it because islam is the &#8220;most MISUNDERSTOOD&#8221; religion in the world? People should read why exactly women have to wear the burqa&#8230;&#8230;Also, women are tortured elsewhere also leave alone, afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: henna</title>
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		<dc:creator>henna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Women assualt happens everywhere, from Pakistan to saudi Arabia to America to India.
But why Afghanistan or for that matter Pakistan or India make more news than rapes in America.
Afghanistan, Pakistan and India that is the chronology in which news would be reported. Question you asked was why and I tried to ponder upon that and answer came out Freedom, freedom of expression.

In Afghanistan there is least freedom from the Taliban and the law they follow, so if Women just wears loose fitting clothes(I am not mentioning any western dress just loose Salwar Kameez) but not overgarment she would be hanged or buried.

In Pakistan since it is different story, in one lane you will have families wearing short skirts, in another just salwar kameez and in next to that full head to toe Burkha. So generalising Pakistan is difficult, but still in rural regions of Pakistan or SWAT and North west border of Pakistan where Taliban presence is strong not wearing Burkha can lead to lashes on skin.

Last I took India, here if woman dresses like that in rural areas like wearing short skirt with tight top and no Dupatta(long robe covering neck and chest)(we are used to wear sarees that are knee length and that is common practice in peasant families as they work in fields)
she would be jeered at, whistled, made feel uncomfortable and later her family will ask her to wear traditional stuff.

They are three different scenarios in three different countries of Asia which are neighbours of each other. Rape can happen in any of these three countries but what I wanted to write was word &quot;Freedom&quot;.
Indian rural girl is also not having complete freedom but atleast she knows noone will kill her for this.

I have given very generic example it may happen that some overtly male chauvinistic families in India may kill their daughter if she wears that but that will happen seldom for a dress, it may happen more for marrying outside the family rules which we call Honour killing. That again is deplorable is against the idea of freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Women assualt happens everywhere, from Pakistan to saudi Arabia to America to India.<br />
But why Afghanistan or for that matter Pakistan or India make more news than rapes in America.<br />
Afghanistan, Pakistan and India that is the chronology in which news would be reported. Question you asked was why and I tried to ponder upon that and answer came out Freedom, freedom of expression.</p>
<p>In Afghanistan there is least freedom from the Taliban and the law they follow, so if Women just wears loose fitting clothes(I am not mentioning any western dress just loose Salwar Kameez) but not overgarment she would be hanged or buried.</p>
<p>In Pakistan since it is different story, in one lane you will have families wearing short skirts, in another just salwar kameez and in next to that full head to toe Burkha. So generalising Pakistan is difficult, but still in rural regions of Pakistan or SWAT and North west border of Pakistan where Taliban presence is strong not wearing Burkha can lead to lashes on skin.</p>
<p>Last I took India, here if woman dresses like that in rural areas like wearing short skirt with tight top and no Dupatta(long robe covering neck and chest)(we are used to wear sarees that are knee length and that is common practice in peasant families as they work in fields)<br />
she would be jeered at, whistled, made feel uncomfortable and later her family will ask her to wear traditional stuff.</p>
<p>They are three different scenarios in three different countries of Asia which are neighbours of each other. Rape can happen in any of these three countries but what I wanted to write was word &#8220;Freedom&#8221;.<br />
Indian rural girl is also not having complete freedom but atleast she knows noone will kill her for this.</p>
<p>I have given very generic example it may happen that some overtly male chauvinistic families in India may kill their daughter if she wears that but that will happen seldom for a dress, it may happen more for marrying outside the family rules which we call Honour killing. That again is deplorable is against the idea of freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: henna</title>
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		<dc:creator>henna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read my earlier reply, You are convert and you may wear Burkha and anything else for that matter(ofcourse not nikaab when security officers ask you to remove). But the point here is not someone asking you to remove it, the point here is that you are so fed up of showing skin or seeing skin around you.

But if I am not then what? Can I wear Short skirt in Muslim dominated areas in Asia and Africa(I am not writing America because I consider it is still having some freedom of expression).Mostly in India it is difficult for that matter to wear short skirt even in conservative Hindu localities but If I go to any Muslim locality I won&#039;t be comfortable.

Why? Is it just sexual apppeal or is it psychological conditioning in mind that a woman wearing short skirt is available/loose character and woman wearing burkha is just so pious.........

Point in this whole discussion is how the preachers of Islam(present on Youtube and other online channels) actually make a non Burkha covered women appear as sin and denigrate her.

I know your next arguement would be to check hormone levels of how man reacts to Burkha covered woman and to others who are fully nude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read my earlier reply, You are convert and you may wear Burkha and anything else for that matter(ofcourse not nikaab when security officers ask you to remove). But the point here is not someone asking you to remove it, the point here is that you are so fed up of showing skin or seeing skin around you.</p>
<p>But if I am not then what? Can I wear Short skirt in Muslim dominated areas in Asia and Africa(I am not writing America because I consider it is still having some freedom of expression).Mostly in India it is difficult for that matter to wear short skirt even in conservative Hindu localities but If I go to any Muslim locality I won&#8217;t be comfortable.</p>
<p>Why? Is it just sexual apppeal or is it psychological conditioning in mind that a woman wearing short skirt is available/loose character and woman wearing burkha is just so pious&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Point in this whole discussion is how the preachers of Islam(present on Youtube and other online channels) actually make a non Burkha covered women appear as sin and denigrate her.</p>
<p>I know your next arguement would be to check hormone levels of how man reacts to Burkha covered woman and to others who are fully nude.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow so sad ! I am an American Muslim (convert), and I should not be surprised by the backward comments , assumptions, and western superiority mind frames that I am reading, as I grew up with much of the same mentality, but still I am am saddened by the utter ignorance that people display when refering to women that cover themselves.
OPPRESSION??? Have you looked at the billboards, tv commercials , tv/movies... In the west *nd India for that matter... Women are total sexual objects , no matter how high u push that ceiling, u r still regarded and treated as sexual objects , trained to be exactly that from the youngest of ages, even if your educated its not enough , kind, nope,..smart,... Nope ...Make sure you have sex appeal it is a necessity in society, all the messages thrown at girls from day oine, is be SEXY.. That is oppression , ones worth being based on sexual appeal n being trained from an early age, and you don&#039;t even realize it , the worst kind of oppression.
I cover in the long robe and cover my face (not burqa) and I do not do so to express my &#039;culture&#039; nor do I do so because some MAN has said I have to , rather it is a part of my faith, there are numerous wisdoms and benefits, but BOTTOM LINE is when u believe you do as your Lord has commanded knowing that indeed God created us and knows better than us what is good for us.
For the agnostics and athiests obviously that won&#039;t make sense to you because you don&#039;t acknowledge you have a Lord.in this case I can only advise to think more deeply about your existence and the existance of the universe and its absolute perfection , you don&#039;t need to worry about my choice of covering you have bigger issues to ponder.
Btw, my family is majority Christian and some agnostics , I have heard these arguments against our way of dress, I am not angry at people that feel this way it&#039;s trully out of ignorance (most of the time) ,and cultural conditioning. Just felt that you should think maybe it is you that is thinking in a certain manner due to cultural conditioning . Also, women REPORt (never mind how much it happens) being raped in America something like every 3 seconds (its been a little while since I last looked up stats but should be pretty close still) so um .. Not sure why anyone would nention rapes in Afghanistan , liklyhood is they are more predominant here, we just highlight yhe ones there because we have cultural discomfort with the covering an dgenerally Islam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow so sad ! I am an American Muslim (convert), and I should not be surprised by the backward comments , assumptions, and western superiority mind frames that I am reading, as I grew up with much of the same mentality, but still I am am saddened by the utter ignorance that people display when refering to women that cover themselves.<br />
OPPRESSION??? Have you looked at the billboards, tv commercials , tv/movies&#8230; In the west *nd India for that matter&#8230; Women are total sexual objects , no matter how high u push that ceiling, u r still regarded and treated as sexual objects , trained to be exactly that from the youngest of ages, even if your educated its not enough , kind, nope,..smart,&#8230; Nope &#8230;Make sure you have sex appeal it is a necessity in society, all the messages thrown at girls from day oine, is be SEXY.. That is oppression , ones worth being based on sexual appeal n being trained from an early age, and you don&#8217;t even realize it , the worst kind of oppression.<br />
I cover in the long robe and cover my face (not burqa) and I do not do so to express my &#8216;culture&#8217; nor do I do so because some MAN has said I have to , rather it is a part of my faith, there are numerous wisdoms and benefits, but BOTTOM LINE is when u believe you do as your Lord has commanded knowing that indeed God created us and knows better than us what is good for us.<br />
For the agnostics and athiests obviously that won&#8217;t make sense to you because you don&#8217;t acknowledge you have a Lord.in this case I can only advise to think more deeply about your existence and the existance of the universe and its absolute perfection , you don&#8217;t need to worry about my choice of covering you have bigger issues to ponder.<br />
Btw, my family is majority Christian and some agnostics , I have heard these arguments against our way of dress, I am not angry at people that feel this way it&#8217;s trully out of ignorance (most of the time) ,and cultural conditioning. Just felt that you should think maybe it is you that is thinking in a certain manner due to cultural conditioning . Also, women REPORt (never mind how much it happens) being raped in America something like every 3 seconds (its been a little while since I last looked up stats but should be pretty close still) so um .. Not sure why anyone would nention rapes in Afghanistan , liklyhood is they are more predominant here, we just highlight yhe ones there because we have cultural discomfort with the covering an dgenerally Islam</p>
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		<title>By: French law could see fines for burqas - Page 12</title>
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		<dc:creator>French law could see fines for burqas - Page 12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it or not, are intelligent, educated, free, and choose to wear the thing.  Here, this may help:  We Love Islam, So we wear Burqa &#124; Sa   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it or not, are intelligent, educated, free, and choose to wear the thing.  Here, this may help:  We Love Islam, So we wear Burqa | Sa   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: henna</title>
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		<dc:creator>henna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burkha would be really most googled term for this century!!  I am Indian and I have been noticing a major change in way Muslim women are dressing in India. 4-5 years back it was difficult to differentiate between Hindu and Muslim in Pune but now I see so many Burkha, niqaabs clad women in market that it becomes quite certain that Indian Muslim society that is 0.23 billion as of 2009 is slowly getting more Islamized. Which may not be wrong becuase anyway they are Muslims and they believe and preach Islam. I have lived in Kashmir, Delhi, Chennai, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Kolkatta and am currently in Pune and am seeing that salwar kammeez dupatta is being adorned with outer garment. well I am yet to wear one and would love to wear one with great cuts!! I find Burkha sexy and Niqaab sexist!!

But question in this blog is about modesty and when hundreds of websites, you-tube, american colleges, western educational institutions invite Muslim cleric who say islam dress is only form of modest wear it does hurt one who does not wear it. There is so much psychological pressure on you, people who are creating material for these courses attack you psychologically, in west dress is given most importance along with divorce rate and in east specially India polytheistic aspect of Hinduism (Hinduism has monothestic as well as polutheistic aspects) is given most imporatnce in any such course or talk. As simple as that the way courses or talks are given it is shown that native lifestyle is worst and Islam offers best. No more broken families, no more rapes as women would be more modest, no more identity issues etc.

what I want to say is that Burkha is just another garment but the political and moral ideologies that are so strongly attached to it makes it a threat for other women who dont wear it. Burkha may have allowed lots of young Muslim Indian women to come out of homes and continue their education, But do they have choice to remove it after education if they wish to? Or they would just get married and their husbands would ofcourse not let them have this choice when it was so hard for their parents. And so it will keep on going like this.What if 1 out of this lot of 100 young women adopted burkha just for education and wanted to remove it after. Who is there to answer her cries for freedom? Afterall we always harp about minority rights, what happens to this minority? she just resigns to dictats of life or is so much conditioned that she feels fighting for her freedom as burden on her chest and leaves it for eternity.

Suzzane by name other lady seems Hindu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burkha would be really most googled term for this century!!  I am Indian and I have been noticing a major change in way Muslim women are dressing in India. 4-5 years back it was difficult to differentiate between Hindu and Muslim in Pune but now I see so many Burkha, niqaabs clad women in market that it becomes quite certain that Indian Muslim society that is 0.23 billion as of 2009 is slowly getting more Islamized. Which may not be wrong becuase anyway they are Muslims and they believe and preach Islam. I have lived in Kashmir, Delhi, Chennai, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Kolkatta and am currently in Pune and am seeing that salwar kammeez dupatta is being adorned with outer garment. well I am yet to wear one and would love to wear one with great cuts!! I find Burkha sexy and Niqaab sexist!!</p>
<p>But question in this blog is about modesty and when hundreds of websites, you-tube, american colleges, western educational institutions invite Muslim cleric who say islam dress is only form of modest wear it does hurt one who does not wear it. There is so much psychological pressure on you, people who are creating material for these courses attack you psychologically, in west dress is given most importance along with divorce rate and in east specially India polytheistic aspect of Hinduism (Hinduism has monothestic as well as polutheistic aspects) is given most imporatnce in any such course or talk. As simple as that the way courses or talks are given it is shown that native lifestyle is worst and Islam offers best. No more broken families, no more rapes as women would be more modest, no more identity issues etc.</p>
<p>what I want to say is that Burkha is just another garment but the political and moral ideologies that are so strongly attached to it makes it a threat for other women who dont wear it. Burkha may have allowed lots of young Muslim Indian women to come out of homes and continue their education, But do they have choice to remove it after education if they wish to? Or they would just get married and their husbands would ofcourse not let them have this choice when it was so hard for their parents. And so it will keep on going like this.What if 1 out of this lot of 100 young women adopted burkha just for education and wanted to remove it after. Who is there to answer her cries for freedom? Afterall we always harp about minority rights, what happens to this minority? she just resigns to dictats of life or is so much conditioned that she feels fighting for her freedom as burden on her chest and leaves it for eternity.</p>
<p>Suzzane by name other lady seems Hindu.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a man had to wear a burqa for one day, he would be protesting. The heat alone, and the need to breathe fresh air!!! I am American, and not Muslim, but that is my belief of the matter.

I think that if a woman wants to wear a hair covering (hijab) than I don&#039;t think she is doing herself an injustice. And wearing loose fitting clothing is not oppresive. There is pride in showing someone what you stand for. Nevertheless, if a Muslim woman does not dress in Islamic norms, can she still be modest and a true Muslim? I believe so. 
  
If a woman has no choice but to wear burqas, and the like because either she will be beaten and threatened, or if she feels guilty and pressured by others to do so, IS WRONG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a man had to wear a burqa for one day, he would be protesting. The heat alone, and the need to breathe fresh air!!! I am American, and not Muslim, but that is my belief of the matter.</p>
<p>I think that if a woman wants to wear a hair covering (hijab) than I don&#8217;t think she is doing herself an injustice. And wearing loose fitting clothing is not oppresive. There is pride in showing someone what you stand for. Nevertheless, if a Muslim woman does not dress in Islamic norms, can she still be modest and a true Muslim? I believe so. </p>
<p>If a woman has no choice but to wear burqas, and the like because either she will be beaten and threatened, or if she feels guilty and pressured by others to do so, IS WRONG!</p>
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		<title>By: Noire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E, point well made!

All that I see from the article and the above exchanges is “I agree, but.” The sad truth is that there are no buts about it. A human being who is forced to subjugate by means of any visible symbol, whether it’s a burqa or a tattoo or a yellow star, IS being oppressed, whether they realize it or not. When they choose to wear it on their own and start to sincerely believe in the power of the symbol, the oppression then becomes complete and irrevocable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E, point well made!</p>
<p>All that I see from the article and the above exchanges is “I agree, but.” The sad truth is that there are no buts about it. A human being who is forced to subjugate by means of any visible symbol, whether it’s a burqa or a tattoo or a yellow star, IS being oppressed, whether they realize it or not. When they choose to wear it on their own and start to sincerely believe in the power of the symbol, the oppression then becomes complete and irrevocable.</p>
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		<title>By: mubasshir hallare</title>
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		<dc:creator>mubasshir hallare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, I do have a lot of Muslim friends who have chosen to wear the burqa. What I’d like to say here is that to none of them, it’s a symbol of oppression. I have to disagree that women choose to wear it only to evade the male gaze. A very good friend of mine simply wears one because she loves being in this long robe, and enjoys being a Muslim. She is not the only one. A lot of Muslim women in India love to wear the burqa simply because it’s their way of saying they are proudly Muslim, and one has to allow that. Cultural pride is important to anyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, I do have a lot of Muslim friends who have chosen to wear the burqa. What I’d like to say here is that to none of them, it’s a symbol of oppression. I have to disagree that women choose to wear it only to evade the male gaze. A very good friend of mine simply wears one because she loves being in this long robe, and enjoys being a Muslim. She is not the only one. A lot of Muslim women in India love to wear the burqa simply because it’s their way of saying they are proudly Muslim, and one has to allow that. Cultural pride is important to anyone</p>
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		<title>By: r.daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>r.daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure we all feel free under our burqas.</description>
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